22 points by doener 5 hours ago|13 comments
chasil 2 minutes ago
Red Hat recently removed Motif from their distribution. I wonder if it's still in AIX.

https://access.redhat.com/solutions/6113101

shrubble 14 minutes ago
There are at least, for those wanting a Linux or BSD based Motif fix:

Enhanced Motif Window Manager https://fastestcode.org/emwm.html

and the full-fledged CDE desktop that uses Motif also:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/ (note that you want to firewall this somehow as the default settings on the background process ttdb can be a security hole)

snvzz 2 minutes ago
UTF-8 support very welcome.
flomo 27 minutes ago
I dunno what's interesting about this link, but Motif has been LGPL a while and the last release was in 2017.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/motif/files/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motif_%28software%29

(in some alternate universe, motif was under the x11 license and you would have motif v13 instead of GTK.)

tokyobreakfast 2 hours ago
I miss Motif. This is a portal to a time when men were men and UNIX(R)—or in this case, VMS—desktops were utilitarian and did exactly what you needed and nothing more.

Now we live in a time where we allocate GBs of RAM to eye candy that functionally accomplishes nothing. Then we make the case to rewrite the eye candy in increasingly "safe" languages, requiring even more RAM.

cturner 34 minutes ago
"did exactly what you needed and nothing more" You can still do that. Build a config for openbox or dwm. While the wm still compiles you can ignore the fads.
toast0 28 minutes ago
> Now we live in a time where we allocate GBs of RAM to eye candy that functionally accomplishes nothing.

Well, of course it takes more ram when we run 4x the pixels for the same size screen. And we double the refresh rate, but then hold everything back a frame to composite it. :P

pjmlp 39 minutes ago
Safe languages have nothing to do with it, case in point, the choice of programming languages available on VMS.

Which contrary to UNIX did not had the C mistake.

Rather Structured BASIC, Extended Pascal, COBOL, Modula-2, Fortran and Bliss.

It is really sloppy programming nowadays, regardless of the languages.

ofrzeta 53 minutes ago
You can use a CDE lookalike https://github.com/NsCDE/NsCDE
jabl 46 minutes ago
The real thing is open source since 2012 https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/
aninteger 34 minutes ago
Time to port this to Wayland using Claude code, right?
hackyhacky 2 hours ago
Anyone here going to the VMS bootcamp? [1]

[1] https://events.vmssoftware.com/bootcamp-malmo-2026

jmward01 53 minutes ago
I saw DEC windows and immediately thought of Windows NT 3.1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT_3.1